Thanks @Broberto. Makes sense – the number of endpoints with Xano is getting quite large, but the true no-code nature of the product is appealing to us for now (instead of writing edge functions). appreciate the insight!
I did a lot of Supabase vs Xano consideration for the project I am building and ultimately went with Xano, mostly because our app requires heavy data manipulation and having the ability to rapidly experiment and iterate on large data sets with nocode functionality is key for us.
Obviously, if you have some code chops and solid back-end experience Supabase might be a better choice. I am working with an agency and contractors to build our app, but I am also personally learning XANO (and WeWeb) myself for experimentation and R&D - and the more I dig into it the more I really like it.
I just wanted to point out that in my research I did find comnoco - which has a pretty slick no-code logic interface builder you can use WITH Supabase. It’s built in Go (the same as docker, Kubernetes etc.) and looks pretty slick!
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@mike-fastgen how does Fastgen differ from n8n? I went from thinking n8n can run all my business logic to then abandoning that idea and building my biz logic strictly using edge functions…and after weeks of banging my head against a wall, I’m reconsidering my approach again. I need to run complex data transformation and processing at regular intervals and Typescript edge functions aren’t the most graceful solution.
hi @chocpretz. n8n is a great tool to build automations but not really the best fit if you want more complex business logic or a full backend. You can run run data transformation with Fastgen but I would need to understand what type of data you are working with to tell you more. If you manipulate JSON, text, or numbers Fastgen is great. For very large datasets that are compute intensive (to give random examples, geospatial data, or complex 3D graphics) Fastgen is not the best fit in its current form. If you DM me, I am happy to tell you more or even jump on a call with you and try to figure out whether Fastgen could help you here.
I’m currnetly building a logistics app with Weweb + Supabase + Fastgen and I love how Fastgen is doing things! I’m planning on doing all the business logic on Fastgen.
If you compare, in pricing and capabilities Supabase + Fastgen is better and less expensive than Xano.
And in some point, I might consider going with Fastgen only for database, auth and logic.
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What are your current thoughts on BuildShip vs Fastgen, etc ?
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Fastgen seems to be cheaper at first Glance, I like the aesthetics of Buildship tho, also it seems to be quite customizable with code.
As @Broberto said, Fastgen is cheaper on the lower end but BuildShip is cheaper on the higher end.
Both are good, I think Buildship has more capabilities by default right now.
BuildShip UI is amazing IMO - I’m jumping in today to test w/SupaBase (which I have never touched)
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I’m looking for a platform that simplifies the setup of the edge functions we use in Supabase. The configuration of Supabase edge functions has been a bit complex, and I’m seeking a more practical and efficient alternative.
Which platform have you been using to replace all this difficulty? 
Hey!
Allow me to give my story on Supabase x Xano…
My app is simple and doesn’t require such a huge complexity of logic, but my knowledge of code is deplorable (I’m incredibly good at Excel hahaha).
Anyway, I started my Backend with Supabase and got stuck when I needed to configure Stripe.
I went to Xano but was discouraged by the amount I would need to pay to start my MVP.
Today I discovered BuildShip - which seems similar to FastGen and I’m reconsidering going back to Supabase to implement the logic I couldn’t do in Edge Functions…
My idea is to use Weweb directly with Supabase for basic CRUD and other more complex things (stripe, file exports) and leave it to the intermediate service layer.
Does my reasoning make sense? Let me know your opinion…
For knowledge, I need to basically configure stripe and make some exhortations for PDF and DOCX.
Thanks in advance!
I wish I had read this before I built my app.
I somehow didnt notice the price difference and now I am a couple weeks away from release and I am thinking I might just have to re-do everything in supabase.
My app will be free for the first few months and I cant afford that cost. $99 a month is pretty ridiculous. and I dont know if its because I am using the free version but I am CONSTANTLY refreshing my api links for my drop down menus. Like 3-5 times a day while I am working on it. its annoying. Maybe that would be fixed once its paid, I dont know.
But now I have to learn a new backend when I barely figured out Xano. I kinda hate myself a little bit for not researching this better.
How long have you been building your backend with Xano?
Ive been building the app for 2 months almost. But thats on average about 10 hours a day. I was building the app and the backend at the same time.
I think I am starting to get a good handle on things now so I dont think itll take me long to transfer everything over to Supabase. maybe a couple days…which probably means 5 because I always underestimate how long things will take haha.
Im also interested in looking at buildship so I will see how supabase and buildship can work together.
Came from Xano to Supabase and haven’t looked back! 
I would advise against Supa + BuildShip though. The time it will take you trying to connect buildship to supa in a meaningful way could, imo, be better spent learning just Supabase. Even if things like triggers, functions, and edge functions take extra time on-top of the 5 days, building becomes a dream when you know the basics, and can use ai!
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Take it as an opportunity to fix some mistakes and make the backend better
Got it. That’s a common phenomenon. Your initial build is largely driven by an iterative process of understanding your business needs rather than actual technical blocks. LCNC really shines in accelerating the rebuild - much faster than the original.
Supabase is a database with a bit of API. Very code-y. Buildship, Fastgen and Comnoco are all relatively low-code API builders that are strongest when paired with a major database like Supabase. (Buildship recently announced a MongoDB partnership that is super interesting too.)
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Ok this is going to take way longer than 5 days, Im completely confused by this so far and its been a day 
I encourage you to look at the money value of your time. If you’re working 10 hours per day and expect this to take 5 days, and you’re working on saving what - $500 outlay in the first five months, then you’re valuing your time at $10/hour.
There are some people who have idle time and very little money for which that trade makes sense.
For me, it goes the other way, plenty of times i Have said “huh I wish I built on something else” and then turn around and ship what i have, because that’s what’s next, and I would rather rebuild downstream of market knowledge.
(And if this shifts monetization earlier on your business timeline - that’s not a bad thing!)
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I believe the same thing, but the fact is I was let go from blizzard in a mass layoff in january, I havent been able to find work since. They stopped my unemployment last week. I dont have the income right now to pay for help or a course. All I can do is try my best and keep moving forward.
Right now I am frustrated as I followed the auth signup process 3 times starting from scratch each time (fully deleting the project) and i cant get it to work. as soon as I add the profile table with the sql thats linked to the user auth table i can no longer signup. it says success but no user is put into my table.
right now I am about to delete my project and start again…again.
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