Anyway you slice it - IMO - VERY smart to let us refer to a private GitHub repo for building custom components.
The slippery slope for higher-end or more experimental users is that “on par” is still subjective - none of these co-pilots ticks every box IMO and many bloat code - so having more control over the code itself is a big advantage.
Lots of folks are already combining more than one of these tools into workflows for a better result and/or more control - I know a bunch of folks that iterate in lovable then go to cursor from there, etc.
I believe the future for software development is 100% bi-directional AI assisted editors that allow you to IMPORT / TRANSLATE code into an editor - and have both VISUAL + PROMPT iterative tools to assist - but have full control over the code base. WeWeb is actually well positioned for this - but the devil is in the details of course.
Serious question … when can we realistically expect BRANCHING??
The reality is - if your co-pilot really lands on par with lovable or bolt for example - branching is even MORE critical.
sorry for the long time to answer! This feature would also make sense to help users migrate existing apps to WeWeb so it makes sense. It’s not planned for now but we’ll definitely keep that in mind.
As for the branching, I don’t have an ETA yet, we are really focused on improving the AI features now as you guys can feel and 100% of the team is on it. We are expecting to have bandwidth for new features around April/May and branching will be amongst the top priorities - however we are not sure yet how long it will take to develop since the qualification is not dry yet.
So, my rough estimation is this year, during spring / summer time.
I have a question on this, by branching you mean branch of a builder that has its own domain and its own settings but branched from a certain app?
This will help us to decide in some plans we have here
I don’t I’ve just been a WeWeb user for very long now it’s just a feeling, not a statement.
There were talks about branching last year already when WeWeb had given a “this year in like 3-5” months estimate to some people I know when selling them the tool.
Also hearing what Raphael said in the Statechange talk he had in the occasion of the AI release, it seems like WeWeb hasn’t even started the exploration, or at least they don’t even know yet how to make it happen. For such a huge feature, I’m not expecting it to happen before next year.
But I hope I’m wrong and WeWeb makes this happen soon, so we can finally have proper DX.
I hope you (and I) are wrong too because this is a great community and I want nothing but success for WeWeb.
But … if you just look at what Windsurf just released with browser previews (https://x.com/windsurf_ai/status/1897774465565487131) - and you if you have access to lovable dev mode beta - you see where this is all going.
It’s going to get VERY, VERY hard for most “no-code” platforms to compete at all when the editors that allow you to FULLY MANAGE native code keep adding all the visual editing features.
WeWeb has a LOT of advantages - obviously there is a mountain more React code to train Claude 3.7 on vs VUE … so … .they have to work a little harder … but bottom line - WeWeb needs to move even FASTER than ever to have a solid future IMO. And I have massive respect for not “over-raising” VC funding when profitable … but we are in a VERY different world.
It’s a hot minute before Bubble implodes, etc. So … my fingers are crossed for WeWeb but I don’t see a world they can move fast enough without MORE talent and that requires … mo money.
It’s only my personal opinion - and again - mad, mad respect for the technical team of WeWeb - but very, very hard for me to see the long term success in boot strap mode - even when profitable and growing 5X.
April/ May for new features will 100% shift to August/ September … and I feel like frictionless support is very, VERY far away.
But hey … maybe you & I are wrong. It would be nice.
It’s only my opinionated prediction - based purely on current technology and market trends.
I don’t have access to their KPIs - but I would be SHOCKED if they are showing enough growth for a company that took $100M on a series A back in 2021 when the market was delusionally high. That tracks to a post-money valuation of $333M-$500M. Sorry … but no way do they have KPIs to back that up in the current market. No way.
All these new customers to lovable & bolt and WeWeb and MANY others … do you really think Bubble has “meaningful” growth right now? So … they need to compete and SCALE with what they have in the bank - ZERO chance of Series B or IPO - I am sure there is still a good amount of that $100M left in the bank - IF stakeholders are being responsible. But … how can they provide liquidity to their investors? What competitor would buy Bubble at $300M + in the current market with all the emerging players and hypergrowth on lovable? (hint … nobody) So … Bubble needs to either acquire a competitor with the money they have left or innovate enough to show the growth against … WeWeb, Bolt, Lovable and everyone else. I just don’t see it.
I do expect them to do another small acquisition like they did with Flusk - and also probably do a huge marketing push. They must be feeling BIG pressure re: growth right now.
No doubt - $100 Million has certainly not turned in to a 3X return, and likely will not with AI trends. My guess is something like 1-2 Million user accounts have been created in their history, with less than 10% being active the last 90 days. What turned me away from Bubble is the massive learning curve AND that, at the time I tried it out, everything was in-house. It meant I was entirely dependent on Bubble if I became successful, and I truly wouldn’t “own” anything.
it’s just a feeling, not a statement.
