Raydian.dev looked promising while it lasted, but they just announced today that they were closing. Gregory John (of Bubble tutorials) was a part of the founding team, and it was full-stack.
I played with it a bit, and what impressed me was the way it automatically created near pixel-perfect sites with tailwind / shadcn. It then could be edited in a WeWeb-like editor. It was SO much easier for me as someone who gets coding/logic way better than design.
I’m excited to see what comes in the next iteration of WeWeb - is it possible for more UI design principles to be baked into AI-rendered pages, like the Raydian crew did? It seems their order of operations was somewhat different, but I don’t know the details.
Thanks for your message. I hope you love the new WeWeb
We’re not there yet but we just rebuilt our AI from the ground up to make this possible in the coming weeks
I haven’t tried Raydian extensively. Would you mind recording a short video or hopping on a call with me next week to walk us through what you think they do really well? I can share with the tech team for inspiration.
I have been an extensive Raydian user and honestly, I am gutted to read that they are closing. It is a really good full stack tool and the AI gen and iteration capabilities are very strong.
I am planning to move to WeWeb and start development - and hoping it is the right choice.
@Joyce@Raphael WeWeb’s new built platform is really promising, and in my own opinion looks really good. I am hoping it reaches very close to the same capabilities and AI generation qualities that Raydian has.
In my opinion, platforms like Bubble are too cost heavy for small businesses (workload units can spike) Softr seems limited to business/internal tools and tools like Lovable, Bolt are nowhere near good enough.
With WeWeb having a full stack option, but also the option to use external services such as Xano, Supabase etc is a huge bonus and very underrated.
In my opinion, with Raydian announcing their closure, I think this is a huge opportunity for an already popular and established platform like WeWeb to maintain their visual programming features and really grow their own AI generation and iteration capabilities and dominate
Thanks @TechaSoftware and @kenboer, I watched the video and found the onboarding flow interesting.
We are now focused on ramping up AI generation quality and it will take a month or two (with weekly improvements). Once it gets close to Lovable & the likes, we’ll be adding planning and project management features to give a great “AI management” experience.
Getting a fullstack visual programming platform to work seamlessly with AI has been the hardest technical challenge of our lifetime, and we are almost there. The recent improvements in AI model capabilities are also helping.
Thanks for the inspiration and for sticking around! We’ll hopefully get the product to where you want it to be before the end of this quarter!
